What a fun camp song that is ... Same song, second verse ... a little bit louder and a little bit worse. Not so fun in this instance, though.
Remember this post? I truly thought that Mayberryfan had learned and grown from that experience. I thought wrong.
I would like to challenge this statement you made, Mayberryfan, on the Fascination with Kimmer thread at Low Carb Friends:
"I decided to poke a little fun at my blog because this fiasco reminds me of someone we all know. However, I didn't accuse anyone."
First of all, I hardly call your blog post "poking a little fun". I'm really sure that the comment you posted to that same post - you know, the one addressed to Ellen - was not meant as fun at all. You know the one where she said she didn't understand the double talk and innuendo. To refresh your memory, here is your reply in its entirety: "I suspect you're well aware of what's going on, "ellen". In any case, we can agree on one thing - this is worse than high school.
May I suggest you get your head out of your locker, then and keep up?"
I take it you didn't believe her name is Ellen. That wasn't just poking a little fun, was it.
Before I cover this next point, I'd like to address Jo. Jo, I hear you are unhappy with having your name attached to any of this. I will say in going back and reading the sequence of the posts on the FWK thread that you were the first to respond to Jill with a comment assuring her "we" knew it wasn't her. For the record, the only reason I mentioned you at all was that you were, in fact, the first person to reassure Jill that "we" knew she hadn't done it. I also allowed my past experiences to color my judgment. In fairness to you, there is no reason for me or anyone else to draw the conclusion that you were speaking for anyone other than yourself, nor attribute any more or any less meaning to that statement than can be attributed to most of those who penned similar sentiments. I sincerely apologize for making an inference that has no basis in fact.
I do, however, want to address the complaint that has been passed on to me that you resent being associated with trouble, particularly trouble that involves YustYucky. There are reasons for that, and one of those reasons is as Mayberryfan stated: guilt by association. It is true that we are known by the company we keep. I could say more about this, but I will only say that Jo, from this preachy blogger's point of view, if you don't want to be associated with attempting to stir up trouble, refrain from making disparaging remarks about people to others. The Internet walls have ears and those remarks have a way of coming full circle.
Speaking of making disparaging remarks, back to Mayberryfan. The second part of your statement, "However, I didn't accuse anyone." deserves a closer look. I guess the best way I can say this is you are, my dear, a liar.
Did you or did you not say the words, "When I first saw the controversy, I knew Yucky had done this and so did the other LCF'ers who gather at my forum. NO DOUBT. " (See that guilt by association thing, Jo?)
Like I said - same song, second verse. A little bit louder and a little bit worse.
Do I think you were the original anonymous poster on Nancy's blog? Don't know. Do I believe you were the anonymous poster who claimed to be a "paid sleuth"? Don't know that either - but whoever that is would be working for Heidi. She's the only one hiring. At the very least you have made a very concerted effort to arouse the passions of the anti-KK community against Yucky. After what you tried to pull with Trista, and after finding you doing the very same thing in this instance, I would not be the least bit surprised to discover that you have orchestrated this entire charade. What I am surprised about is how deft you are at pulling this bs behind the scenes while loudly declaring your innocence out for all to hear.
Let's hope there isn't Same song, third verse ...
Thursday, October 9, 2008
Monday, October 6, 2008
This One's for You, NancyElle!
Just thought we could use a reminder ... a blast from the past from your blog. Here is the link.
Here is a little list you included there:
1. Aspire to be Barbie - the bitch has everything.
2. If the shoe fits - buy one in every color.
3. Take life with a pinch of salt... A wedge of lime, and a shot of tequila.
4. In need of a support group? - Cocktail hour with the girls! Cosmos anyone?
5. Go on the 30 day diet. (I'm on it and so far I've lost 15 days).
6. When life gets you down - just put on your big girl panties and deal with it.
7. Let your greatest fear be that there is no PMS and this is just your personality.
8. I know I'm in my own little world, but it's ok. They know me here.
9. Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself.
10. Don't get your knickers in a knot, it solves nothing; and makes you walk funny.
11. When life gives you lemons in 2008 - turn it into lemonade then mix it with vodka. Lemondrop anyone?
12. Remember every good-looking, sweet, single male is someone else's ex-boyfriend or ex-husband!
I have too many favorites on that list to pick just one :) Hope it puts a smile on your face today.
Here is a little list you included there:
1. Aspire to be Barbie - the bitch has everything.
2. If the shoe fits - buy one in every color.
3. Take life with a pinch of salt... A wedge of lime, and a shot of tequila.
4. In need of a support group? - Cocktail hour with the girls! Cosmos anyone?
5. Go on the 30 day diet. (I'm on it and so far I've lost 15 days).
6. When life gets you down - just put on your big girl panties and deal with it.
7. Let your greatest fear be that there is no PMS and this is just your personality.
8. I know I'm in my own little world, but it's ok. They know me here.
9. Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself.
10. Don't get your knickers in a knot, it solves nothing; and makes you walk funny.
11. When life gives you lemons in 2008 - turn it into lemonade then mix it with vodka. Lemondrop anyone?
12. Remember every good-looking, sweet, single male is someone else's ex-boyfriend or ex-husband!
I have too many favorites on that list to pick just one :) Hope it puts a smile on your face today.
Saturday, October 4, 2008
A Strange Encounter
It seems there is a mysterious underground plot being played out amongst the players in the anti-KK community. An anonymous poster has attacked, without provocation, seemingly one of their own.
My mind works in steps, so let me step through this.
First consider NancyElle – the victim. She is an unlikely victim by all appearances. She is not controversial. An anti-KK personality, for sure, but not an ardent anti-KK blogger. Not a prolific poster. I have to confess that I don’t read her blog routinely. I really don’t read any blogs routinely. And I haven’t been to hers for some time until this commotion. Her blog centers around good food and her love of music – particularly that of Jackson Browne. Nothing there to raise an eyebrow. So why was she attacked? Supposedly because she used an affiliate link to an internet rebate program website. Honestly, I’ve never seen her comment one way or another on making a few pennies from an affiliate link, so would not even begin to know enough to call her a hypocrite for doing so. But come on. Does this make any sense to anyone?
No, I didn’t think so. But, I will come back to the question of motive later on. For now, let’s move on to the suspect.
Our dear friend Anonymous has struck again. Brings to mind that character known to every parent. You know – I Don’t Know. Or maybe you are more familiar with his cousin, Not Me. Let’s not confuse Anonymous with screennames. After all, most of us DO post anonymously as in we don’t use our real names on the internet. We do that for a wide variety of reasons. No, Anonymous is more sinister than that. This person wants to make comments that can be affixed to any number of people. Generally it is because they don’t want to accept the responsibility for their words. Or they want to cast a shadow over others.
In this instance, for reasons known only to NancyElle and a handful of others (not the larger anti-KK community, though) the focus seems to be fixed on one person. Hints are being dropped. Is it MissMerize, aka AvenueGirl? She is the one associated with cigarettes and martinis, after all. She insists it isn’t her. And the more her denials are met with silence, the more impassioned her denials become. Interestingly enough, NancyElle has not cleared MissM. She HAS cleared Heidi, though. This is after all of the support popped up for MissM and Heidi was fingered as a likely suspect. So why, Nancy, if you DO know who is behind this have you NOT cleared MissM? I’m not aware of any conflicts that MissM has had with ANY of the anti-KK community, let alone Nancy. Of course, she could have and it could have sailed right passed me.
Now, if NancyElle hasn’t had any mix-ups with anyone, why would she be targeted? Thinking out loud here … how about to cast dispersions onto another party? Someone who, if they were to pick on someone as likable and innocent as Nancy would raise the ire of just about everyone. Someone that others might have a grudge against. Someone that others could claim makes a habit of this sort of thing. Hmm. A real target, if you will. If we accept that premise, what clues do we have to that person's identity?
The first obvious target is MissM. Who would be upset with her? Well, Heidi Diaz is the obvious one. The past few days MissM has turned her attention full focus on the lying liar who lies. She for sure would have a real reason for wanting to discredit her as well as embroil her into an unrelated controversy. But NancyElle has very deliberately cleared Heidi Diaz. Scratch MissM off the list.
Other clues have been dropped for us. Let’s look at the comments that followed Nancy’s announcement that she was done. The first few were confused condolences. One poster questioned just how Nancy knew who the poster was, as implied on her blog, when the post was made anonymously. That is a fair question certainly. Anyone who is going to attack that way and use the moniker Anonymous would certainly know how to use a proxy to hide their IP thus making their identity truly unknown. All of the bloggers understand stat counters and trackers. I’ve yet to see an answer to that very important question, even though it has been presented twice now.
Then we have an unsolicited denial with a note that it is understandable why someone would be upset with the whole affiliate link thing.
MissM enters in and declares her innocence. She actually connects the dots to herself, realizing that she is being painted as the villain. Lots of folks come to her defense, but not NancyElle.
One poster opines that NancyElle is a likely choice if Anonymous is Heidi. That argument could also explain why NancyElle was used if it is NOT Heidi, but I’ll get around to that in a bit.
Now things start to get interesting. A LCF regular, Mayberryfan, posts making it very clear that she believes she knows who the real suspect is. And then – who is this? Morgan? Hi, Morgan. Apparently you, too, believe you know who did this. And Vox. And Jo – who is the only one of those “in the know” to state clearly to MissM that they KNOW it isn’t her. Mayberryfan drops a hint that the real anonymous is intentionally setting MissM up.
What do all of these people have in common? Well, besides being involved, side by side with the rest of us in the anti-KK fight. They all have had a run in with another blogger – YustYucky. And in some cases, at least two other bloggers.
Do we have motive? I’m not saying one way or another. Just following the clues. But I will say this, and I want to say it just as clearly as I can.
Folks need to be very careful about charges being flung around. The KK Scam has educated a whole lot of people to the ways of the Internet. If you are wrong, you will rue the day. The fact that you have already cast aspersions on the character of MissMerize, aka AvenueGirl will be cause for a lot of distress for you. Be very careful which pile you step in next.
My mind works in steps, so let me step through this.
First consider NancyElle – the victim. She is an unlikely victim by all appearances. She is not controversial. An anti-KK personality, for sure, but not an ardent anti-KK blogger. Not a prolific poster. I have to confess that I don’t read her blog routinely. I really don’t read any blogs routinely. And I haven’t been to hers for some time until this commotion. Her blog centers around good food and her love of music – particularly that of Jackson Browne. Nothing there to raise an eyebrow. So why was she attacked? Supposedly because she used an affiliate link to an internet rebate program website. Honestly, I’ve never seen her comment one way or another on making a few pennies from an affiliate link, so would not even begin to know enough to call her a hypocrite for doing so. But come on. Does this make any sense to anyone?
No, I didn’t think so. But, I will come back to the question of motive later on. For now, let’s move on to the suspect.
Our dear friend Anonymous has struck again. Brings to mind that character known to every parent. You know – I Don’t Know. Or maybe you are more familiar with his cousin, Not Me. Let’s not confuse Anonymous with screennames. After all, most of us DO post anonymously as in we don’t use our real names on the internet. We do that for a wide variety of reasons. No, Anonymous is more sinister than that. This person wants to make comments that can be affixed to any number of people. Generally it is because they don’t want to accept the responsibility for their words. Or they want to cast a shadow over others.
In this instance, for reasons known only to NancyElle and a handful of others (not the larger anti-KK community, though) the focus seems to be fixed on one person. Hints are being dropped. Is it MissMerize, aka AvenueGirl? She is the one associated with cigarettes and martinis, after all. She insists it isn’t her. And the more her denials are met with silence, the more impassioned her denials become. Interestingly enough, NancyElle has not cleared MissM. She HAS cleared Heidi, though. This is after all of the support popped up for MissM and Heidi was fingered as a likely suspect. So why, Nancy, if you DO know who is behind this have you NOT cleared MissM? I’m not aware of any conflicts that MissM has had with ANY of the anti-KK community, let alone Nancy. Of course, she could have and it could have sailed right passed me.
Now, if NancyElle hasn’t had any mix-ups with anyone, why would she be targeted? Thinking out loud here … how about to cast dispersions onto another party? Someone who, if they were to pick on someone as likable and innocent as Nancy would raise the ire of just about everyone. Someone that others might have a grudge against. Someone that others could claim makes a habit of this sort of thing. Hmm. A real target, if you will. If we accept that premise, what clues do we have to that person's identity?
The first obvious target is MissM. Who would be upset with her? Well, Heidi Diaz is the obvious one. The past few days MissM has turned her attention full focus on the lying liar who lies. She for sure would have a real reason for wanting to discredit her as well as embroil her into an unrelated controversy. But NancyElle has very deliberately cleared Heidi Diaz. Scratch MissM off the list.
Other clues have been dropped for us. Let’s look at the comments that followed Nancy’s announcement that she was done. The first few were confused condolences. One poster questioned just how Nancy knew who the poster was, as implied on her blog, when the post was made anonymously. That is a fair question certainly. Anyone who is going to attack that way and use the moniker Anonymous would certainly know how to use a proxy to hide their IP thus making their identity truly unknown. All of the bloggers understand stat counters and trackers. I’ve yet to see an answer to that very important question, even though it has been presented twice now.
Then we have an unsolicited denial with a note that it is understandable why someone would be upset with the whole affiliate link thing.
MissM enters in and declares her innocence. She actually connects the dots to herself, realizing that she is being painted as the villain. Lots of folks come to her defense, but not NancyElle.
One poster opines that NancyElle is a likely choice if Anonymous is Heidi. That argument could also explain why NancyElle was used if it is NOT Heidi, but I’ll get around to that in a bit.
Now things start to get interesting. A LCF regular, Mayberryfan, posts making it very clear that she believes she knows who the real suspect is. And then – who is this? Morgan? Hi, Morgan. Apparently you, too, believe you know who did this. And Vox. And Jo – who is the only one of those “in the know” to state clearly to MissM that they KNOW it isn’t her. Mayberryfan drops a hint that the real anonymous is intentionally setting MissM up.
What do all of these people have in common? Well, besides being involved, side by side with the rest of us in the anti-KK fight. They all have had a run in with another blogger – YustYucky. And in some cases, at least two other bloggers.
Do we have motive? I’m not saying one way or another. Just following the clues. But I will say this, and I want to say it just as clearly as I can.
Folks need to be very careful about charges being flung around. The KK Scam has educated a whole lot of people to the ways of the Internet. If you are wrong, you will rue the day. The fact that you have already cast aspersions on the character of MissMerize, aka AvenueGirl will be cause for a lot of distress for you. Be very careful which pile you step in next.
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