Will the real CrispyBread please stand up!

“Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive” – Sir Walter Scott



Funny thing about webs--they have a beginning and they have an end. Regardless of how much of a mess they may appear, with enough patience one can always follow each thread back to its beginning.

The identity of CrispyBread has been positively confirmed.

And the winner is ..... Gary Fontaine!

Many a mystery is solved through a chance encounter or a chance word when combined with deliberate, methodical thought. That is precisely what leads to the demise of CrispyBread.

TRUTH and I were talking one day, musing over the many machinations of CrispyBread when suddenly I realized that a particular pattern of thought was ringing a bell. These rants about how the ducks are so worried about the few thousand at Kimkins when the real enemy is the government – they sounded so familiar to me. Well, it took very little to confirm that as the battle cry of none other than Gary—lasttime4me—or Mr. Argyle as he is known to some.

Here he is at Low Carb Friends:
You ladies are trying to save a few thousand individuals because they purchased a diet plan online? Why don't you take your energy in suing the government that showed you how to get fat in the first place by eating 8-12 servings of complex carbohydrates each day, adding HFCS to your foods and to eat a low fat diet. This is a bigger scam. Now that would be a lawsuit and you will be able to save generations not just a few thousand ladies from a lady who lied a few times.

This is CrispyBread responding to a post right here on this blog:
All anti-kimkims bloggers should really be concentrating all their anger toward the U.S. Government for publishing a false food pyramid decades ago. They are the real scammers not Kimmer. We believed the government and ate low fat with high carbs and look at where the Nation is now......OVERWEIGHT. Millions of peoples lives have been ruined because of our government. Go help them and not a few hundred others who are Adults and choosing to eat low-carb with Kimmers help. That is their choice not yours.

A similar post by Gary in the kk forums:

Re:NO CARBS 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
Great job XXXXXX. Keep up the good work!

The government made us all fat by introducing the food pyramid years and years ago. Pretty sad if you ask me. They got it all wrong. You may want to get the a great book called The Protein Power Lifeplan by Dr Eades....it will open your eyes on the low carb way of eating.

Continued success!

Here is more fodder – while not specifically mentioning the food pyramid, the conspiracy theme is apparent:

Re:Gary's Progress Report 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago
I finally made it to TWODERVILLE to day. I have not seen that in years and years. I know now that I can attain my goal if I am doing what I have been doing over the last month.

I really thought I would never be able to attain my goal because my food addiction was so great. I was blaming my self but recently I have been reading how all the food, drug, and diet companies work together to make and keep you fat. The food companies add high fructose corn syrup to so many products and they know the body can not process it easily and it is stored as fat. The diet companies come out with products that promise you to lose weight and lie about the ingredients on the packaging and know that it does not work. In the meantime they know you will buy their next product so they develop a new product under a new company name which won't work either. The drug companies do the same thing - wonder why there is not a miracle pill to supress appetite and help one lose weight. Anyway, I have eliminated high fructose corn syrup from my diet and use natural sweetners instead of the man made one. I shop in an all natural food coop for most of my food. I don't have to spend a lot of time reading labels because there are so few ingredients in the products. I kinda went off the topic of my weight loss overnight. Sorry. I wil stop waffling.......

Have a great day.

Follow up to that last one:
Hi XXXX

Thanks for your comment. I am reading a book now by Kevin Trudeau who claims to be a secret covert operative for almost 20 years. He supposedly knows from his own experiences how big business and the government try to debunk individulal who promote products that could hurt the profits of giant multinational corportaions. He claims he worked for a company that were creating weight loss products for the consumer and everyone on the board was overweight. He also claims he got the true secret to lose weight from a Dr that came up with it years ago to cure the rich who were getting fat. It will probably be an interesing read when I get a chance to sit down and read it.

The answer for us is Kimkins. But I like to read what is out there.

Gary

As a side note: We find his reference to the board members being fat humorous, considering who he works for!

Anyway, once we realized that CrispyBread was likely Gary and NOT Heidi, we set out to prove it one way or another. Thanks to the contributions of Christin and Becky, as well as Tom from LCF, and just plain old hard work, we have been able to prove beyond any doubt that CrispyBread is in fact Gary Fontaine.

Rest assured that all information which was used to determine this fact as well as all specifics pertaining to the horrendous and libelous website he was directing us to has been forwarded to the proper authorities.

Gary, there are no words to describe the sense of satisfaction that we derive in knowing you will be held accountable for your participation in this fraud being perpetrated by Heidi Diaz.

You lie down with dogs, you get bit by fleas.

The Kiss of Death

Does becoming a feature story in the Kimkins newsletter or a front page model equate to the Kiss of Death as far as someone’s Kimkins experience goes?

Does Heidi Diaz, owner of Kimkins, warn her testimonial candidates that they will come under close scrutiny – not only by other members of the Kimkins website, but by anyone interested in the legal actions being taken against Heidi Diaz? I mean, warn them beyond “You might get some nasty IM’s”?

Does Heidi Diaz advise her testimonial candidates that she herself forwards her newsletter each and every month to many, many people on the “outside” of Kimkins, including several people she refers to as “Ducks”? Does she tell them that it isn’t necessary for those she calls “haters” to come looking for folks inside Kimkins, as she herself provides that information to them -- directly to their personal email boxes? Surely Heidi realizes that she is exposing her members to these risks. Does she warn them?

So, what does happen to people who become the current public face of Kimkins? For one thing, they allow themselves to fall into the spotlight. By virtue of allowing their stories and their photographs to testify to the effectiveness of Kimkins, they are also representing that Kimkins is a safe program and that Heidi Diaz is a person worthy of collecting the monies of people who are desperate to lose weight.

Consider Christin and Deni, former members who were featured in the Woman’s World article that lured many of the current Kimkins members to the site. Neither of them is there any longer. Both are involved as principal parties in the ongoing civil litigation against Heidi Diaz and Kimkins; both have requested very clearly that their story and their likeness no longer be associated with Kimkins, or be used in any further advertising or promotion of the program. Yet their photos and stories can still be found in numerous advertisements on the internet. Heidi claims ownership of those photos and stories based on her terms of service and permissions given at the time of original use.

How about Heather? Remember Brian and Heather? What happened to them when they asked to be removed from the front page? (See the bottom half of this post for Heather’s story in her own words.) I find it fascinating how Heidi responded when they opted to not get involved in her legal problems, declining to sign a affidavit endorsing her plan.

Some, like swalt, will be allowed to stay on site, but at what price? Ask AmyB. She tells her story here.

Heidi Diaz doesn’t really care what happens to you after she has been given the story she needs. She no longer needs you to actively promote her business – she already has you, regardless of whether or not you continue to endorse the diet. That is one reason why so many of the past people who were asked to step into that spotlight (or offered to step in it themselves) are now blogging about the reality of their experiences. Many, like deedlynn, LauraLa and AmyB - highly respected people within the Kimkins community – have been exposed to the truth of what Heidi Diaz has done and who she really is. They have seen with their own eyes the words she has written or had others write on her behalf. Their conclusions have been that they value their own integrity too much to allow themselves to be used to promote a fraudulent business. Unfortunately, because of their prior support and affiliation with Heidi Diaz, they fall under intense scrutiny of those working hard to provide information vital to the demise of Heidi Diaz’ operations.

Heidi coaches people to be sure and talk about how they felt before joining Kimkins, whether they were lonely, ashamed or resigned to their overweight condition. She explains that allows people to relate to them. In other words, it plays on people’s emotions – drawing them in and giving them hope. In many cases it takes a great deal of courage for people to be willing to even put their story to pen and paper, as writing those feelings down actually can cause one to relive painful past moments. There are instances where individuals who would be too timid or reserved to reveal so many personal details if left up to themselves have been encouraged by a stronger personality to do so. They ultimately take the risk of that exposure in order to please one who represents a friend to them, and one whose approval they have come to depend upon. That person could be Heidi, or perhaps another well intentioned friend. They may also become convinced that it is their obligation to reach out to others, not realizing that they are exposing themselves to scrutiny. Then, when they realize who Heidi is and what she has actually done, Heidi attempts to use that information to intimidate and dissuade them from speaking out against her.

There have been a handful of people who, once they realized the outside attention they were getting, asked to be removed from the front page. Why would that be grounds for banning? I don’t know. But it has happened, on several occasions. The provided excuse is always violation of TOS.I guess they failed to read the fine print in that TOS that states, “Thou shalt not speak against Heidi Diaz, Kimmer or Kimkins in any venue, and management reserves the right to follow you everywhere in order to enforce this rule.”

It is my fervent hope that people will count the cost before they step out and do what Heidi Diaz herself has never been willing to do. Ask yourself why that is – why Heidi, rather than honestly write about her weight loss struggles and encourage people with her personal and private details instead chose many years ago to take on an imaginary persona, with a totally fabricated weight loss success story, bolstered with photos heisted from obscure websites. For all of those years she denied the truth. She continues to deny the truth today. She continues to fabricate and embellish. She continues to speak ill of her own members behind their backs.

One last thought on this: Does Heidi, perhaps, only use people on the front page, or her newsletter that she considers expendable? Is being asked if you would be willing, or being allowed to be featured the equivalent of the Kiss of Death?

Calling CrispyBread and Kimkinite101

Back in February, I carried on quite an informative conversation with both CrispyBread and Kimkinite101 as a result of my question “Why Do You Support Heidi Diaz, aka Kimmer?” http://prudentiablog.blogspot.com/2008/02/why-do-you-support-heidi-diaz-aka.html. If you two don’t mind, I’d like to carry on another conversation.

For the matter of setting the record straight, would either of you be willing to identify yourselves as you are known on the KK website?

I am wondering, CrispyBread why you have turned so mean on the Fascination With Kimmer thread on Low Carb Friends. I can understand the frustration that comes from feeling misunderstood as well as the passion that drives intense conversations. I don’t understand the need for the vitriol you have display in the last few days. Would you help me with that?

Have you actually had conversations with Sam Redman? His interest in this entire ordeal has appeared to have waned. Have you information to the contrary?

I also am wondering how you both perceive the defections that appear to be happening, particularly that of those who appear on the KK front page or newsletter as success stories.

CrispyBread, you seem to really want to talk about the FDA and the federal food pyramid and guidelines. Let me tell you that I share your opinion – we have been lied to repeatedly, much to the detriment of the health of our population. Why should that fact absolve Heidi Diaz from culpability for promoting an eating plan that is considered dangerous by most health practioners?

The two of you were kind enough back in February to help me gain some perspective on all of this. I’m hoping you will both do so once again.